were killed but we could have had the extraction forces, rescue forces killed as well because in a russia to do something, you rush to failure. that's a cardinal rule in the military you don't make that kind of mistake. you soberly, quickly and as rapidly as possible address the situation but don't just run over the top of the heal because something. killed. >> mark and antonio, if you listen closely alleges later to lovell's own testimony upon interrogation by congressman colley, he said something -- conley when he was different, said given the resources we had at the time, could we have stopped this? no. no. >> that's sort of one of the three key questions in all of this, i think. a, was there adequate security at that place? b, given the resources, could we have stopped it and, 3, had we, the white house, been lying? i think it's the concenof fire mind would folks there was insufficient security but there was, you know, no trail of desseat, no cover-up and given the minimal resources they could not have stopped this the minimal resources they could not have stopped this. >> let's talk